Maarten Maartensz

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Meditations On First Philosophy
in which the Existence of God and the
Distinction Between Mind and Body are Demonstrated. 9


Meditation I
Of the things which may be brought within the sphere of the doubtful

Remarks by Maarten Maartensz
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Note 1: The problem with this noble project is that, as stated, it is impossible to achieve: the very least that one must retain are one's capacity to reason and express one's thoughts in language. Perhaps one may doubt even that, but this one can do only piece-meal (in language), and while one retains at least part (which one may consider later on and seek to replace by something better).  Back.

Note 2: This clearly implies Descartes presumes logic is not given up.  Back.

Note 3: First, it may be doubted whether all one had learned has arrived through the senses (and Leibniz would have exclaimed here "perhaps everything - but the sense of self", as seems indeed to be presumed by Descartes' own "cogito ergo sum").

Second, the fact that it was sometimes proved to Descartes that his senses deceived him entails something was sometimes proved. (Indeed, in a sense one can claim that even if one can prove one is sometimes mistaken, one cannot prove one is always mistaken, for if one could prove that it would have to be true (if what one proves is true), and so one would not be mistaken about something.) Back.

Note 4: But how does Descartes know he is not mad? Because others tell him he is not? Amd why are these others not mad? In short, if one agrees that some people have been mistaken because their minds were deranged, one cannot simply decide one is oneself not deranged simply by declaring one is not: a madman is equally capable of affirming he is sane.  Back.

Note 5: This may be called Chuang-Tzu's problem - who dreamt he was a butterfly, and woke up asking himself how he could know that he was a man who dreamt he was a butterfly or a butterfly who dreamt he was a man. (One of my answers to that predicament is that the former is much more probable, since we know that men may dream they are butterflies, but do not know that butterflies may dream they are men.) Back.

Note 6: It is an interesting observation that mathematics is of "that kind which only treat of things that are very simple and very general, without taking great trouble to ascertain whether they are actually existent or not" and also that mathematical truths seem to be and remain the same in any case. Back.

Note 7: Let's again remark one may suppose what one pleases, but it doesn't follow one need or indeed can believe everything one supposes. (I can suppose I don't believe anything, but personally I find this hard to believe.)

Next, given this, the general answer to such suppositions is: one can confirm and infirm suppositions by finding their logical consequences exist or fail to exist.

Finally, the last passage is of some importance for Descartes' argumentation, in that he grants that the God he believes in has permitted it that Descartes is sometimes mistaken. Back.

Note 8: Let's again note that there is a considerable difference between merely supposing something is contrary to one's belief, and being able to support such a supposition. Here and elsewhere Descartes tends to speak as if these are the same.  Back.

Note 9: It is again a fact that Descartes keeps presupposing logic, which means he does not doubt everything and mewhich ans also, and more importantly, he has a class of very important beliefs he does not doubt at all, whatever he does say. Back.

Note 10: This is clearly a highly rhetorical passage. Why not rather assume straightaway the Zoroastrians were right, and in fact there is both aGod and a malevolent and deceitful devil?

Next, it seems rather odd that one at the same time can insist that there is something much like a deceitful divinity and that one can oneself - a mere mortal - outwit it by thinking hard and careful enough. (This seems like a 5-year old who just learned chess, who believes he can beat everyone. Not even Capablanca could.)

Finally, Descartes is assuming lots of things might be different from what he thinks they are, but again he neither questions his capacity to use language nor his capacity to reason logically, nor in fact his memory.

This is rather odd, for if one starts imagining one may be deceived, it seems to me that one should also at least consider one may be deceived about language or logic or one's use of it. Back.

last update: Jun 23 2003