December 18, 2010


ME+me: Some useful links about ME+B12 & Gibbon+Theology

I continue being not well, and otherwise also as before, so I cannot do much. But there is a little progress, and in my case and at present it has to do with B12. So here are some links relating to ME, B12 and also two links relating to Gibbon+theology.

1. Some ME and B12 links
2. Gibbon+theology

1. Some ME and B12 links

I have experimented with vitamin B12 before - and to start with, here is the Wikipedia lemma, including structure diagram:

The reason to experiment with oral supplements B12 (I've found so far no doctor willing to give injections) is that I have thought since 1979, when my ex and I fell ill with what was diagnosed as ME after ten years, that one decent hypothesis for much that ailed us was that our cells did not get enough food or oxygen.

I tried several preparations, but the strongest I could get weren't very strong and made no noticeable difference.

A short set of reasons plus - I have meanwhile found independently - a good set of recommendations of supplements to take with B12 is here:

Now it turns out that - for Dutchies, at least - there is a newly developed preparation of one of the B12 vitamins (there are several, and it seems te cyano-variant is better avoided in large doses) here:

This contains 10 mg B12 (in the hydroxycobalamine-acetate form) in a small tablet meant to be taken sublingually.

I have done so for the past almost three weeks and feel significantly better especially in terms of more energy, less pain, and a bit better sleep, and since I can only explain this from this supplement and the correlation is very significant I report it here.

In case there is more you want to know in few words, there are these

And in case you want - at present - 177 pages of information about and around it on Phoenix Rising Forum there is this:

Of this - a LOT of text - I have so far only read the first 8 pages and the last 10, but the first 8 contain a lot of relevant information by fredd (alias) who was a lot benefited by it, and learned a lot around and about it.

There is a lot more to be found on the net and also on several ME-forums, but in case you are interested, the above should give a reasonable start.

I will have more about this, since I find the benefit considerable, so far, and the price relatively low, in that it takes 36 eurocent per pill, as I buy it (which probably could be done cheaper also).

On a related line, for those who like a picturesque view of bio-chemistry: Here is a moving 3D animation of biochemistry about the issue how the cells get energy, with music and all:

There's more there that is nice to look at and that shows how complicated things are. If you think about it, you realize that what you see is mostly in the nature of textbook drawings - as in good biochemistry texts - animated by computer in 3D, but indeed to rather spectacular effect.

And one hopes it moves intelligent youngsters to the study of bio-chemistry, or some such study, rather than a pseudo-science, for which see: Feynman vs Wessely.

2. Gibbon + theology

As regular readers of Nederlog may know, I like Edward Gibbon, the English 18th Century historian and writer of The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire a lot - see e.g.

When I last looked, more than a year ago, I could find no good edition of Decline (as it is known, affectionally), but now I have found one, at an also otherwise interesting site. It starts here:

It seems a very well done html-edition, so if you want to get serious with Gibbon, now you know how.

It comes from a site, that unpacks as 'Christian Classics Ethereal Library'. As it happens, I am a philosopher and an atheist, who has no truck with any God of any faith - but then that is, I think, a rational position based on real evidence and real science, and anyway there have been many extra-ordinarily intelligent men (and women) in bygone ages who have been religious, and who wrote books that are interesting for various reason.

As it happens, many of the best theological and religious texts, mostly in the Christian traditions, but not all, have - it seems - a good edition in html, text or pdf on, so if you are interested in that manner of subject, you should at least have a look - and I like their editions of Duns Scotus, William Law, and Thomas Aquinas.

There is really a lot there, and it is presented mostly scholarly, and they seem not overtly dogmatic, as can also be inferred from their offering Gibbon, since Gibbon was not particularly religious, and quite probably not at all, while the chapters 15 and 16 of "Decline" contain excellent criticisms of religious ideas, and the whole book contains many fine satirical or ironical asides on religious hypocrisies, such as this footnote attributed to a Benedictine abbot

' "My vow of poverty has given me an hundred thousand crowns a year; my vow of obedience has raised me to the rank of a sovereign prince" - I forget the consequences of his vow of chastity" '(Ch. 37).

P.S. Corrections must wait till later.

Anyway... this was one more Nederlog in the "Good news about ME" series, with some added good news about Gibbon, though I should add that in either case the news is mostly personal: B12 in the form linked above does help me some, is very probable, which is for me an interesting and helpful fact anyway, and also Gibbon gave me many happy hours.

But at least anyone willing to try can now try either, at little cost and little risk, for I should also add that B12, at leads if one avoids the cyano-variant and also takes care with glutathione supplements, that seem to combine badly with B12 for some reason, has no known dangers.

And the last translated Nederlog is in the ME in Amsterdam index and the Spiegeloog columns idem, to clarify why I have been removed as a philosopher from the UvA: I am honest, I can think and I can write, so I must be a bad man, in pomo environments and for pomo brains.

P.P.S. It may be I have to stop Nederlog for a while. The reason is that I am physically not well at all. I don't know yet, but if there is no Nederlog, now you know the reason.

As to ME/CFS (that I prefer to call ME):

1. Anthony Komaroff

Ten discoveries about the biology of CFS (pdf)

3. Hillary Johnson

The Why

4. Consensus (many M.D.s) Canadian Consensus Government Report on ME (pdf)
5. Eleanor Stein

Clinical Guidelines for Psychiatrists (pdf)

6. William Clifford The Ethics of Belief
7. Paul Lutus

Is Psychology a Science?

8. Malcolm Hooper Magical Medicine (pdf)

Short descriptions:

1. Ten reasons why ME/CFS is a real disease by a professor of medicine of Harvard.
2. Long essay by a professor emeritus of medical chemistry about maltreatment of ME.
3. Explanation of what's happening around ME by an investigative journalist.
4. Report to Canadian Government on ME, by many medical experts.
5. Advice to psychiatrist by a psychiatrist who understands ME is an organic disease
6. English mathematical genius on one's responsibilities in the matter of one's beliefs:
   "it is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon
     insufficient evidence
7. A space- and computer-scientist takes a look at psychology.
8. Malcolm Hooper puts things together status 2010.

    "Ah me! alas, pain, pain ever, forever!

No change, no pause, no hope! Yet I endure.
I ask the Earth, have not the mountains felt?
I ask yon Heaven, the all-beholding Sun,
Has it not seen? The Sea, in storm or calm,
Heaven's ever-changing Shadow, spread below,
Have its deaf waves not heard my agony?
Ah me! alas, pain, pain ever, forever!
     - (Shelley, "Prometheus Unbound") 

    "It was from this time that I developed my way of judging the Chinese by dividing them into two kinds: one humane and one not. "
     - (Jung Chang)


See also: ME -Documentation and ME - Resources

Maarten Maartensz

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