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 September 21, 2010

 

ME + me : !!HEALTH WARNING!! !!"BEWARE OF THIS SITE"!!


Note: Quite a few links are in Dutch

       !!HEALTH WARNING!!
From MEA's publicly accessible Facebook pages Sep 16, 2010
Text as given there - as here  - but with red bolding & links added,

Ellen Goudsmit

Beware of this site. If you read the home page, he make claims about the mayors of Amsterdam and if you're from that city, you will not recognise what he writes. Yes, there is a drugs problem. Yes, mayors have let the 'coffee' shops trade.... But the mayors alone did not make that decision. The councils did. Having lived in the city, when young and as a postgrad, I was never in contact with any drug maffia and wouldn't know where to find them. You knew where to buy drugs, but I can't say that we were under influence of the drug cartels there more than here. Ed van Thijn later became a minister. Job Cohen might be a future PM. If they were involved in a protection racket, even the tolerant Dutch would not accept them. I think the worst thing they did was to change the trams. Some are just moving adverts now.

Ellen Goudsmit PS. As a philosopher, he wouldn't have the training to be able to judge medical or psychological articles. If you don't check with the originals, you don't know if summaries written by others are a reasonable interpretation, or not. Ergo, this may not be a reliable source of information. If you need to pace, there are better resources which do not mislead you.

       From MEA's publicly accessible Facebook pages Sep 16, 2010
!!HEALTH WARNING!!

  Stupidity and egoism are the roots of all vice.
    -- Buddha
  If we believe absurdities,         
  we shall commit atrocities.    
    --
Voltaire      

  I am looking for a human being.
    -- Diogenes

As for me, it is as the days and months before, as indicated in the P.P.S that's been here for a while now: I continue being not well, for which reason I still have not yet written more on the DSM-5TM  nor was there a Nederlog the last days. I also wanted to write a bit more about psychiatry and about Cargo Cult Science and pseudoscience, but these things also have to be queued awaiting somewhat better times.

Also, I got a little nauseated, for reasons I will explain now and return to later.

Meanwhile, although there was no Nederlog since September 15, for nauseated and other health-related reasons, there was quite a bit of traffic on my site and a lot of downloads, and some related negative publicity about me (my person, my site, my character, my integrity, my qualifications, my honesty) referred to in my title on at least two sites.

For the moment, I give you the documents of the cases, as they stand, with some links, since I find it curious - to say the least - what matter of blatant lies, slander and misrepresentation people publish about me, as if this can be done as a matter of course.

This matter will be fully discussed also with the parties who think they are free to do this to me, and namely on my site. And if these parties don't want to do this, I will draw my public and sharp conclusions from it.

Here are some helpful definitions from my copy of the third revised edition of the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary:

Slander (..) 1. The utterance or dissemination of false statements or reports, concerning a person, or malicious misrepresentations of his actions, in order to defame or injure him; calumny, defamation. 2. A false or malicious statement or utterance intended to injure, defame or cast detraction on the person about whom it is made. (..)

Calumny (..) 1. False and malicuous misrepresentation, to the injury of another; libellous detraction, slander. 2. A slanderous report.

Defamation (..) 1. The bringing of ill fame upon anyone; disgrace -1711. 2. The action of defaming; the fact of being defamed; also, and act of defaming

Libel (..) 5. Law. Any published statement damaging to the reputation of a person. In wider sense, any treasonable, seditious or immoral writing. Also, the act of publishing such a statement or writing.
1631. b. In pop. use: Any false and defamatory statement. Also transf. of an unsuccessful portrait, a thing or a circumstance that brings undeserved discredit on a person, country, etc. 1618.

And here are the documents of the cases, as they stand, on the internet, for your consideration:

Sections

1. The start of it
2. The MECFS-forum
3. The MEA-forum
4. To the owners of these forums

1. The start of it

It started with this, I have meanwhile found, on the MEA Facebook Wall of the English MEA (= ME Association), namely by a friendly remark and link by a reader who had liked some of my prose:


(Clicking the above image leads to the file meant - MM)

This was on Thursday Sep 16, 2010. I did not see it that or the next day, because I do not like Facebook at all, in the first and major place, and besides I am not British and this forum (or wall - whatever) seems to be mostly for British readers, like the MEA site, that I know  better (as it is not Facebook, that I prefer not to enter, wholly apart from ME).

Anyway, this was kind of Sheila Campbell, and if you want to get to the link (the above is an image, that also works when clicked), here it is: ME + me :  Williams vs White + Feynman vs Wessely.

Many people seem to have liked it, for it has been download many times the last days. But as shown above, not all persons think those who liked it are wise. Here are some more with complaints about person, site, character, integrity, qualifications and honesty:

2. The MECFS-forum

To get the background of this reasonably well you must at least know some of the things I have left out in this file, but that will be online later in a separate file.

What happened on the ME-F, as I call it to save typing, was that Sheila Campbell's post was quickly reposted on PR-F (Phoenix Rising Forums about ME) and then on ME-F.

I saw the former myself and was informed about the latter by persons on that forum who may believe I have not been fairly or honorably or indeed morally treated there, to which I would not say no.

What happened I could display in screengrabs but do in the form of text on ME-F that starts of with a reposting of Sheila Campbell's post on MEA Facebook Wall, that I leave out, followed by the following, where I have left out quotations, links etc.

Again, I will not give all here that I am saving for later, and just reproduce some lies about me, which you can name more precisely using the definitions of the OED, and that I will treat later here in more detail. The lies are in red:


cfs since 1988 [Administrator]

Maarten was banned permanently after ignoring the rules despite repeated attempts by email to ask him to follow them. He kept reposting forum messages on his blog (i.e., violating copyright as well as trust and privacy) and even forum members' pictures. I'm sure he likes it that way because he kept telling us that he wasn't capable of being around people (us) so much less intelligent than him, and wasn't going to participate anymore anyway.

M: What is in red is a lie, but then CFS_since_1998 apparently finds writing falsehoods and deceptions a nice passtime (<- Slaughterhouse 11)


Flo [Moderator] (Advocate on PR-F)

When this forum was smaller, some people posted photos of themselves in a thread in the lounge here. I did not like it when Maarten copied those photos and put them on his own website.


Since some members got rather disquieted about whether the picture of themselves or their kid(s) were put on line by me on my site, let me categorically state that

What is above in red is a lie. Mail me your own heroic name and address, Flo, and we see whether we can settle this, or mail me the links to the urls of the pictures of members of ME-F that I have put on line.

The absolutely only "picture" I put on my site is the following "of Patricia Carter", because of her attempts to incite people to upset bloodbanks and to scare people. Here is what I wrote on July 8 at the end of What the real me thinks about Animal Forum - 2

P.P.S. The brave Patricia is now inviting people on ME-F to put up their personal pictures (or what is claimed to be one, but let that pass). I suggest that you be very reticent with this, especially if you live in England or indeed the US. In both countries people have been sectioned because of ME/CFS, and very badly mistreated.

So I am glad CFS_since 1998 agreed above this is the TRUE picture of MECFS-owner Patricia Carter, the would be infector of US bloodbanks, which I did for that reason, and because she said what I quote her as saying, and she was being hysterical, immoral and wrote falsely, and was out for scaring people with falsehoods and nonsense:


Patricia Carter according to her
  co-administrator CFS_since_1998

Otherwise, I have put no pictures of any members of ME-F on line, and in fact warned everyone publicly on my site NOT to put their pictures on line when Patricia Carter and Awol asked them to do so, for this might be abused.

So I resent VERY much by these liars to be lied about in this way, and I will want to take this up with the above depicted moral, intellectual, legalese beauty, who can expect fireworks with what she put on site as her portrait, which I do have, thank you very muchL How about growing a penile pinokkio-nose on it, in a nice moving gif, Patricia dear? Let me know, for

 Qui tacet consentit.


3. The MEA-forum

As I do not want Facebook, I have been rarely on it and am not a member of any Facebook and namely because I can program and believe the stories by programmers about the dangers for your privacy and the datamining of your person if one is a Facebook-member, and besides I don't like the concept at all.

But I was mailed about the following, and then was able to verify myself that this is so, and have downloaded the relevant Facebook-page, from which the following is taken, that as I found it follows it on the publicly accessible - that means: for everyone on the internet, not just Facebook-members or members of the MEA-Facebook-wall - part of the MEA Facebook Wall, directly under the post by Sheila Campbell this documentation started with:


Clicking on the above image leads to ME Association's
Facebook Wall (it may have been or be removed)

I first became aware of Ellen Goudsmit in 1989, when she wrote a letter to a monthly published in the Faculty of Psychology in the University of Amsterdam, in which she mentioned ME (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis), of which I then had not long before heard for the first time of and been diagnosed with by my GP. Since then we have written some paper letters and mailed some, last in November 2009, mutually friendly but neither much personally interested in the other, so far as I could tell.

However that may be, I must understand from Ms. Goudsmit's above quoted and displayed words

  • that none of what I say on my site can be true or important
  • that my site is so worthless or dangerous that all persons are recommended to stay away from it, from the ME Association's publicly accessible Facebook pages: Beware of this site
  • that all of my site should not be read by anyone - not what's in philosophy, not what's in logic, not what's in computing, not about Multatuli, not about Leibniz, Hume, Mill, Boétie, Machiavelli, Swift, Clifford, Moral Discourse, Philosophical terminology ... all worthless and all quite dangerous to all, ms. Goudsmit at least manages to insinuate
  • that I speak falsehoods galore about drugs in Amsterdam and hardly know what I am writing about:
  • That he worst that happened in Amsterdam since Ms. Goudsmit moved to England is that the Amsterdam trams have turned into moving adverts;
  • that I am not an M.Sc. in psychology and have been lying about this for years on my site;
  • that I can not understand medical and/or psychological writings properly, so that my site must be full of nonsense about ME.

And moreover that LOTS of things I have been writing about my having ME in Amsterdam in Dutch, that Ms. Goudsmit can read and pretends to have read, since she tells the world to "Beware of this site" should not be read.

So according to Ms Goudsmit

Furthermore, the readers of the public MEA-Facebook Wall all should know that, in Ms. Goudsmit's opinion (ill with ME in England since decades, sane in her own view one must suppose):

  • ms. Goudsmit is able to judge all of my website: philosophy, logic, ME, programming, Nederlog, all of my history, all of my writing and all that I have done and suffered FAR better than I can who live in Amsterdam, and it seems she believes I must or should accept
  • that she publicly implies that my character and writings are unwholesome - "Beware of this site";
  • that I have no integrity or honesty by implication, if I am sane - "he make claims about the mayors of Amsterdam and if you're from that city, you will not recognise what he writes";
  • that I do not have the academic qualifications I have - "he wouldn't have the training to be able to judge medical or psychological articles"; and
  • that she misrepresents my whole site and my whole legal and Human Rights case in Holland wilfully - "I think the worst thing they did was to change the trams." indeed as a Glenn Beck might do, if indeed she is compos mentis.

Or so it appears to me and I do have academic degrees in relevant subjects, live in Amsterdam, and have a large site: Beware of this site.

But ms. Goudsmit may defend herself on my site, as I must conclude I have been on purpose been misrepresented in my qualifications, my integrity, my honesty, my case and the contents of my site and indeed also my life and history with ME in Amsterdam - that so far has not been contradicted by anyone in anyway, ever since it has been on line, which it has been now since 2002, and parts since 1998, including all the bureaucrats and politicians it has been brought to the attention of.

 Qui tacet consentit.

4. To the owners of these forums

I request from the owners of the mentioned twon forums that they leave these misrepresentations of me standing and give me space to counter them, that is sufficient to say it is not so and link to my site.

Person who believe they have been unfairly treated can discuss this with me on my site. I will fairly moderate - you can fairly say what you please, within limits of length and sanity - but I will not be moderate in satire and sarcasm where I think this is due, apt or indeed reasonable, because I do not intend to pretend to be reasonable against persons who just pretend to be reasonable, but cannot really be so in writing or speech. And the rational standards I wish to se are the only ones that matter: logic, probability and real science, as e.g. outlined in Clifford's The Ethics of Belief (<- full text with my notes).

Those who cannot or will not write in such rational terms, when asked, I may answer in any rhetorically effective way, if then it is all rhetorics, wordplay, tricks, appeals to authority, fallacies, or threats with the Harassment Act, arbitrary redefinitions or pseudoscience.

Unreason is best rationally refuted by real science, logic and probability; and best answered if persisted in by satire.

One of the things that offends or irritates me most is that Ms. Goudsmit has known of me since 1989; has written and mailed with me; has never been a subject of any of my satires; last mailed with me in November 2009; and who knows about my site since 2002 at the latest, has seen fit to totally misrepresent that my case with ME in Amsterdam is a personal one that involves the breaking of my human rights, quite on purpose, in the interest of Amsterdam drugsdealers and criminally incompetent or corrupt Amsterdam municipal bureacrats.

Here is what the omniscient Ms. Goudsmit - "Beware of this site" - cannot have missed on my site, dated International ME-Day 2010, titled ME: ME and Human Rights, where they are all quoted and that ends with this personal

Note

I will argue later - but see ME in Amsterdam if you read Dutch - that most of the rights that I nominally have in Holland in terms of the above Declaration, that is part of the Dutch law, have been denied to me

(1) because I have ME since January 1, 1979 and
(2) because I have protested against the decline of education and civilization in Holland since I remigrated thereto in 1977 (from Norway) - in which I have been found to be quite right by the Parliamentary Commission Dijsselbloem of 2008 and
(3) because I have had the courage to protest against the being threatened with murder and violence and being gassed by the drugsdealers the mayor of Amsterdam Ed van Thijn had given permission to deal drugs from the house where I tried to survive with ME.

Part of the reason for my discrimination in Amsterdam is very probably that I am the oldest son (and also the grandson) of Amsterdam heroes of the Dutch resistance to Nazism between 1940 and 1945, and that mayor Ed van Thijn knew both my parents, since my father was knighted in Amsterdam as the main organizer of the Dutch National Exhibition about World War II and Resistance, and my mother worked in 1944 as part of the resistance that protected Jews in hiding from the Nazis, in the vicinity where Ed van Thijn was hiding, age 8:

Rather than receive, answer or help me when it turned out in 1988 that I had been gassed and threatened with murder by the drugs dealers he protected, who also kept me from sleeping, Amsterdam mayor Ed van Thijn (and his successors Patijn and Cohen) decided to do all he (and they) could do to prevent that I got any help I am legally entitled to, clearly in the hope that I would suicide or otherwise die.

I was never answered, never received, never even talked to by phone by any mayor, any alderman, any elected Amsterdam councilmembers, or any leading bureaucrat of the city of Amsterdam ever since I dared to protest against being threatened with murder by the drugsdealers the mayor, aldermen and elected Amsterdam councilmembers protect, and have protected ever since.

Part of the reason is, no doubt, very few Dutchmen have the courage my parents and grandparents had, while the vast majority of Dutchmen, since ages, take all proper care to never offend such authorities as there are.

What I claim is that, in my case, at least the articles 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28 and 29 have been DELIBERATELY BROKEN in Amsterdam by the city-government and the University of Amsterdam, quite consciously so, on purpose, with the deliberate purpose to silence me before my complaints, that have for decades referred to the above articles, could come to court.

For the proofs of these allegations see ME in Amsterdam and in particular its Overzicht (Survey) and Konklusie and the summary for lawyers: Voer voor advocaten en filosofen.

I must guess in explanation that Ms. Goudsmit must think, like her revered former Amsterdam mayors Ed van Thijn and Job Cohen showed clearly by their actions - commissions and omissions - that they did, that a person like me is fit to be threatened with murder by drugsdealers who deal drugs with their personal permits and is fit to be gassed in Amsterdam or at least that if he this happends this doesn't really matter at all, for as Ms. Goudsmit dixit: "I think the worst thing they did was to change the trams."

Finally.... on a more philosophical plain: A sketch of a possible solution, eventually On a fundamental problem in ethics and morals.

       !!HEALTH WARNING!!
From MEA's publicly accessible Facebook pages Sep 16, 2010
Text as given there - as here  - but with red bolding & links added,

Ellen Goudsmit

Beware of this site. If you read the home page, he make claims about the mayors of Amsterdam and if you're from that city, you will not recognise what he writes. Yes, there is a drugs problem. Yes, mayors have let the 'coffee' shops trade.... But the mayors alone did not make that decision. The councils did. Having lived in the city, when young and as a postgrad, I was never in contact with any drug maffia and wouldn't know where to find them. You knew where to buy drugs, but I can't say that we were under influence of the drug cartels there more than here. Ed van Thijn later became a minister. Job Cohen might be a future PM. If they were involved in a protection racket, even the tolerant Dutch would not accept them. I think the worst thing they did was to change the trams. Some are just moving adverts now.

Ellen Goudsmit PS. As a philosopher, he wouldn't have the training to be able to judge medical or psychological articles. If you don't check with the originals, you don't know if summaries written by others are a reasonable interpretation, or not. Ergo, this may not be a reliable source of information. If you need to pace, there are better resources which do not mislead you.

       From MEA's publicly accessible Facebook pages Sep 16, 2010
!!HEALTH WARNING!!

  I am looking for a human being.
   -- Diogenes

   You do not know the unfathomable cowardice of humanity... servile in the face of force, pitiless in the face of weakness, implacable before blunders, indulgent before crimes... and patient to the point of martyrdom before all the violences of bold despotism.
   -- Niccolò Machiavelli


P.S.
As I said, I got rather nauseated, possibly by dysfunctional beliefs.

Since ms. Goudsmit knows so much about my site, she cannot have missed the following item, that I will return to later, since it has been there since 2002 and earlier, and has been known to mayor and aldermen of Amsterdam since 1991:

Conversation with Amsterdam Municipal Chief Order and Security
Miss Mr. Maureen Sarucco


Click the image for enlightenment about
Human Rights, drugs, the maffia,
being gassed and being threatened with murder
by Amsterdam drugsmafiosi protected by the
Amsterdam political and bureaucratic municipality

Click the image for the whole interview in English translation. Ms. Goudsmit has been able to read it in Dutch since 2002 and in English since July 2010. "Beware of this site". All of this is known to mayors and aldermen and council members since 2002 at the latest, since when it has been on line in ME in Amsterdam.

Here is the end of it, spoken by me from the house where the drugsdealers lived on the bottom floor, where I had been gassed and threatened with murder by them, during the time this went on, and while all bureaucrats, all aldermen, all policemen, all district attorneys refused to do anything, including seeing what was the case in fact: Like Ms. Goudsmit they all pretended to know without knowing what they spoke about:

  • MM: Mrs. Sarucco, you are doing something very unwise.
     
  • Ms. Mr. S: No I am not, mister Maartensz
  • MM: I only can warn you in your own interest. You took a somewhat reasonable position before. This time you simply do not.
  • Ms. Mr. S: No, but you keep... You, you do not take a reasonable position. [31] And therefore this conversation is fini...
     
  • MM: (Very indignantly): Mrs. Sarucco, my life is being threatened! My health has been ruined! My human rights have been ruined! And you and many tens of Amsterdam civil servants REFUSE to lift a fing.... [32]
     
  • Ms. Mr. S: ...Good aftern...
     
  • MM:  I have told you dat I find that CRIMINAL, if you understand that.  [33]
  • Ms. Mr. S: Good afternoon, good afternoon mister Maartensz
  • MM: (Starts spelling) "C", "R" ...
     
  • Ms. mr. Maureen Sarucco, black Chief of the department of "Order and Security" of the City of Amsterdam [34]  shuts off the phone. [35]

Why did I not do more?

I am just one ill individual; the above woman is one of the main powerplayers in Amsterdam, where everyone who is anyone with local power in politics or in the municipal bureaucracy, is a leading member of the Dutch Labour Party or is friends with or family of a leading member of the Dutch Labour Party, for which Amsterdam has effectively functioned as Dutch powerbasis and training ground and means of employment in all manner of bureaucratic, political and NGO-appointments since the end of WW II.

Besides, there are and have been many drugs-related murders in Amsterdam, that never get solved - and you can read above what one's life and health are worth in Amsterdam's Municipality: Not even the legal toilet-paper with with Amsterdam Municipal Chief Order and Security Miss Mr. Maureen Sarucco wipes her ass, one may suppose after keeping her nose cool.

The brief of it is: None of these bureaucratic and political types employed in all manner of bureaucratic, political and NGO-appointments in Amsterdam is effectively personally responsible or personally accountable for almost anything he or she does or fails to do in his or her function: Every bureaucrat and every politician in Amsterdam, when it really matters, protects every bureaucrat and every politician in Amsterdam against any civilian without power. ME in Amsterdam, if you read Dutch, provides an excellent proof of that: Libellous and slanderous if false, no one contradicted it ever. And it just concerns the human rights of one person, so what?

Finally, here is some more about drugs in Amsterdam in English, again something ms. Goudsmit warns you not to read, although it is an excellent summary in English, with links to interesting videos:

The ideal candidate for The Truth About Amsterdam (Foxnews)
    
Quote:
The ideal candidate for this position should have sufficient knowledge of the city of Amsterdam, an affinity for the city’s cultural sector, and a good understanding of the needs and expectations of the international community. They must be able to communicate to their audience in an unambiguous, creative and engaging tone-of-voice. Strong computer skills and experience in writing for the web is a must.
    -- I Amsterdam webpages

P.P.S. It may be I have to stop Nederlog for a while. The reason is that I am physically not well at all. I don't know yet, but if there is no Nederlog, now you know the reason.


Maarten Maartensz

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