me: On Dutch Hypocrisies about
Dutch National Excellencies -
"There are no good men. There are no bad men. Mladic
colleague. Please don't shoot the piano player."
-- Dutch Troopleader Lt.-col. Karremans
to general Mladic in front of Srebrenica
Result: Many thousands cruelly murdered
- who Karremans was sent to protect:
we believe absurdities,
we shall commit atrocities."
Note: Bold links in English
A Great Tribute To Dutch Heroism
For The National Commemoration of
Those Who Fell In World War II.
I have to continue the previous Nederlog on
Dutch hypocrisy and Dutch chauvinism, for the text of the
previous Nederlog has been... removed from the
Phoenix Forums, in view of "complaints from anonymous members".
Well... I know my
... and I don't mind, as I wrote on the
Phoenix Forums, that I do not want to upset - and who knows how
upset it might be if it were invaded by Dutch hordes of sons and
daughters of Genuine Dutch Resistance Heroes!
Anyway - I don't blame the
Phoenix Forums, but I am glad I can say what I please on my own
sites, and what I please to say and reproduce now is the rest of the
written conversation, that came directly after my text in
the previous Nederlog:
MM Note: 4 May 2010
Moderator Note: Post was deleted because parts of it were felt to
be offensive to Dutch forum members.
The Dutch, after all, with the notable
exception of my parents and grandparents, were and are a nation
of born collaborators.
Maarten, do you realise that includes all dutch
members of this forum and their ancestors?
What about all the other dutch people that suffered in
I have no idea who this is - it seems a woman, not young, certainly
Dutch - and I also don't know what she meant to say, but I don't like to
be publicly qyestioned by someone who is totally unknown to me about
"all the other dutch people that suffered in
Let me just say they were very shabbily treated, nearly all,
when they returned to Holland; that
many of them were driven to suicide (Dutch text, that Dutch who
feel chauvinistic should read carefully;
as usual, this too was not answered, because presumably someone like me
is functionally and Untermensch who ought to get GET till he has learned
morality, as in "Arbeit
Macht Frei" and see "Aan het werk, op
welke manier ook" (very sharp, but the Dutch
authorities don't dare to take it down).
My father was again one of the few who dared to resist that, and
was again bitterly discriminated for it: A "Resistance Pension" just a
little more than the dole - o, and a knighthood just before he died.
Anyway... I answered thus:
Originally Posted by lansbergen
Those I know from the generation of my parents VERY likely
agree with me (and note I speak of "a nation of") - and I have
known more of them than any or almost any Dutchmen of my
generation; my parents after the war were systematically
discriminated for being 'dirty communists'; they got 'a
resistance pension' the size of the dole, for being being 'dirty
communists'; and I just dislike the ordinary Dutch hypocrisies I
get these days on the radio, e.g. in the voices of the
collaborators of my generation like the sickening political
whore, journalist, professor, and professional liar and poser
Elsbeth Etty., communist careerist since 40 years, always lying,
always posing, these days as an animal-rightist.
If there are excuses to be made by me for what I say, it is
not to Dutchmen younger than 90, and not to Dutchmen
who did a promillage from a promillage from what I or my parents
did and dared. (And not to worry, Lansbergen: No doubt it is
genetical - but I have been called 'a fascist' many a time in
the University of Amsterdam, Psychology Faculty, for saying
things like 'I believe intelligence is innate for at least
2/3rds', at a time and a place one just could not say this in
this Dutch Temple of mock Science.)
Since you read Dutch, consider this, about the Dutch sadistic
psychiatric charlatan Bastiaans, again a creep I was the only one
who publicly dared to question - while in fact
ex-concentrationcamp inmates I have known, who tried to, where
threatened with murder by Bastiaans' patients, apparently for
life flipped out on the LSD he handed out to them, with wide
support from Dutch parliamentarians, including sick assholes like
the Labour Parliamentarian Meesters, who did a lot of free
tripping by way of Bastiaans, and lied a whole book of
'Resistance-Heroics' together to further his career:
The guy who "supervised" the inquiry by the NIOD (the Duch War
Documentary Centre, a very fraudulent set of liars) is ....
professor Van Heerden for whose morals and intelligence see
He is the same who told a
secretary to tell me that
We from The Scientific Staff love to see
Maarten Maartensz dead
and who for decades taught that
and who seems to have collaborated with
his ex Renate Rubinstein on the
Even after Van Heerden was
fully informed by
a colleague of his who knew me well, he never ever as much as
excused himself, knowing my background, my brilliance, my
Now he is professor in Maastricht: Such is the material "the
Dutch intellectual elite" is made of, if it didn't
emigrate, or is not a physicist or mathematician. See
English, quite true if satirical)
The egregious NIOD-liar Withuis
wrote my father totally from her lying history of the Dutch
resistance after the war, and refuses to answer my mails, while
telling me in the only mail she deigned answer, probably on
order, that I do not know what I am talking about:
The Amsterdam alderman Oudkerk, who protects the Amsterdam
drug mafia, snorts cocaine and fucks junkie teenagers for kicks,
as is well known now, is the grandson of one of the major
collaborators with the Nazis in WW-II, as is less well-known,
unfortunately; the Amsterdam alderman Asscher, is the
greatgrandson of the other of the two major collaborators with
the Nazis in WW-II, and tries becoming mayor of Amsterdam;
the last three mayors of Amsterdam, knowing my background, even
having known my parents, refused to receive me since 21 years
now because I had the courage to say their mafia-drugsdealers
had tried to gas me and threatened me with murder for protesting
against their noise, that caused 2 decades of pain now for me.
every year BILLIONS of Euros are turned over in illegal drugs the
dealing of which is furthered, protected, helped ("gedoogd" in
Dutch, now as in WW II) by the mayors, aldermen and
city-council of Amsterdam since 4 decades now, no doubt for a
percentage, although this can be proved only by methods of
questioning the present Dutch PM finds it very difficult to
question if his American allies use them.
Finally "all the other dutch people that suffered in
concentrationcamps" are nearly all dead; those who aren't dead no
doubt agree with me about Holland; and anyway they have been
abused, slandered, maltreated, lied to, manipulated and driven to
suicide - and AGAIN I was the only one to protest rationally and
cogently, and was scolded and lampooned for my efforts:
And frankly, you being Dutch: Unless you have read ALL that's
AND have a background like I have (which you don't) I am just not
going to discuss this on this forum, but am willing to do it with
you on my site, where my above contribution in this thread has
been made part of Nederlog now, where you can defend the
reputation of Holland in Dutch against my aspersions.
me + ME: Ziek & misselijk van de Neerlandse laffe liegende
P.S. May I also kindly point out that NONE of what I've said in
ANY way contradicts what the Dutch Calvinists have been saying
and singing about the Dutch human excellencies in droves for
centuries now?! Viz.: Humanly speaking, nearly all of you are a
bad, lying, posturing lot only interested in money, and thriving
And that the Dutch managed to help over 100.000 to be gassed, in
under 4 years? Over 1% of the Dutch population, while the
remaining 99% claimed after the war to have been Genuine
Resistance Heroes? And that Anne Frank and her family were gassed
or otherwise murdered because they were betrayed, for money, that
most potent of Dutchie values?
Last edited by Maarten Maartensz; Today at
"The object of the superior man is truth." -- Confucius
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a
revolutionary act." -- Orwell
"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." --
The last three quotes, in fact, are my so called signature in my posts I
mostly suppress when I repeat them here, but which are material, as my
starting quote illustrates so well, so attrociously for many thousands were
murdered because Dutch troops did not due their duties around Srebrenica.
(Some lins in this post were added in Nederlog, so as to give references,
proofs and evidence.)
And you can bet your life lt-col. Karremans is MUCH better pensioned of
then my father was, or than I am, in the dole, without help.
That is Dutch morality, in practice.
Then there was this:
Mark: Moderator note: Maarten these last
few posts about Holland have nothing to do with the CAA, which is the
subject of this thread of course, and the majority of them have nothing
to do with ME/CFS. The part that does concern ME/CFS, referring to your
website, doesn't seem to have anything to do with this thread either.
Some of the comments are also clearly offensive to Dutch people and the
posts are in breach of several forum rules. Please would you remove
these two posts, you may post them on your own site of course but it
isn't appropriate here. If you don't remove the inappropriate material
soon I will delete both posts in their entirety, this material just
isn't appropriate here.
To which I responded as follows:
Originally Posted by Mark
Do as you please, Mark - as far as I am concerned you may
delete them completely: I don't know what complaints you've
gotten and the
moderators have to do their difficult job as they see fit for the
interests of the PR Forums.
So I really don't mind, though I think my text is itself quite
fair and justified for me - but perhaps indeed not for this
forum. Also, I have no energy or taste to edit my post myself to
please (possible) anonymous Dutch sensibilities - they may be
deleted, though they will stand, quite proudly also, on my site.
I see meanwhile there is a PM of yours, which I will answer asap.
P.S. Personally, I have had no complaints whatsoever, by the
And thus it is and there it stands...
.... A Great Tribute To Dutch Heroism For The National Commemoration of
Those Who Fell In World War II.
And I quote, for the instruction of those with ME, with bolding by
Amsterdam's loco mayor L.F. Asscher
personally, it may fairly be guess (financial man, after all, hunting for
mayorship) from the City of Amsterdam's website:
De waarnemend burgemeester van Amsterdam, de heer L.F. Asscher,
loopt aan het hoofd van de stoet die voert langs een indrukwekkende
reeks gedenktekens die herinneren aan de strijd, het verzet en de
schrijnende verliezen die de Tweede Wereldoorlog kenmerken. Diverse
autoriteiten, organisaties en individuele burgers eren de slachtoffers
met bloemen en kransen. Gezamenlijk staat men, letterlijk, stil bij wat
oorlog betekent voor mensen van toen en nu.
Aanleveren kransen en bloemstukken
Kransen en bloemstukken kunnen op 4 mei vóór 09.00 uur worden
afgegeven bij de wachtruimte van de Nieuwe Ooster. U wordt
vriendelijk verzocht uw krans of bloemen zelf af te halen en mee te
dragen tijdens de herdenking.
The bold means this, in English and for the rare survivor of 95 or
so, in a wheel-chair and anyway old, who knows afflicted by ME, but anyway
frail, very frail...
DELIVERY OF FLOWERS ETC.
You are kindly required to come and get your flowers and flower crowns
yourself and carry them yourself during the commemoration.
signed: Diogenes of Amsterdam
(found none in
P.S. The last link - - is to
Kranke, Volk, Mensheid... sta op
naar den geest! Ruk af den halsband die u hindert. Weg met dat gewicht
op uw hart. Ge zyt niet ziek, ge zoudt niet ziek wezen
althans wanneer ge slechts den moed hadt uzelf te zyn. 
wees mensch !
"Human, be humane". indeed but the Dutch are much
rather menschlih-all-zu-menschlich in large majority:
De roeping van den mensch
is mensch te zijn.
"The vocation of being human is to be humane."
But the Dutch - in majority: there are individual
fine Dutchmen - rather have invalids like me gassed by drugsdealers, and
rather collaborate with Nazis or drugsdealers for money.
It is explained here, in principle:
Happy Commemoration, o Dutchies...
P.P.S. Mark - who is a moderator on the forums has
deleted some of my text with his note:
Moderator Note: Some content here was deleted because parts of it
were felt to be offensive to Dutch forum members.
... OK with me, for the stated reasons... enjoy the
P.P.S. I have nicely framed the parts that are
offensive to Dutch
Amsterdam, May 4, 2010:
son of his father...
As Her Royal Majesty Queen Beatrix famously and truly said:
In Nederland regeert de leugen
In The Netherlands the lie rules
P.P.P.S. Not going to the Dam on May 4th, and in fact in bed
most of the day with pain, there is news on the Dutch on the Dam:
Scandal on the Dam:
Wounded after chaos on the Dam
NIEUWS - Een incident met een luidruchtige man
heeft tijdens de twee minuten stilte een paniekreactie
veroorzaakt onder bezoekers op de Dam. Tientallen mensen raakten
gewond, een 39-jarige man is opgepakt.
NEWS - An incident with a noiseous man during
the two minutes silence has caused a panic reaction among
visitors on the Dam. Tens of person were wounded, a 39-year pld
male has been arrested.
It seems Queen Beatrix has behaved heroically, like a true queen,
and continued the commemoration on her own initative. The video I saw
looks pretty panicky...
Yodeling for Beginners
(<- page 25 - presently at ->
(latest issue - one: ME humor - The Laughter
Process (tm) CoFIBS at work).
And some of the evidence that Herr Professor & Frau Doctor Wessely vom
Weasel zum Weisel are mentally
sane if and only if (iff) I am not - as they wholly agree, miraculously
But see here which of the two logical alternatives a true iff comprehends
1. Ten reasons why ME is a real disease by a professor
of medicine of Harvard.
2. Long essay by a professor emeritus of medical chemistry about
maltreatment of ME.
3. Explanation of what's happening around ME by an investigative
4. Report to Canadian Government on ME, by many medical experts.
5. Advice to psychiatrist by a psychiatrist who understands ME is an
6. English mathematical genius on one's responsibilities in the matter
of one's beliefs:
is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon
7. A space- and computer-scientist takes a look at psychology.
8. Malcolm Hooper puts things together status 2010.
me! alas, pain, pain ever, forever!
No change, no pause, no hope! Yet I endure.
I ask the Earth, have not the mountains felt?
I ask yon Heaven, the all-beholding Sun,
Has it not seen? The Sea, in storm or calm,
Heaven's ever-changing Shadow, spread below,
Have its deaf waves not heard my agony?
Ah me! alas, pain, pain ever, forever!"
- (Shelley, "Prometheus Unbound")
"It was from this time that I developed my way of judging the
Chinese by dividing them into two kinds: one humane and one not. "
An actual Valid Scientific Hypothesis
for what happened to me and 17 million others, and especially to patients
with ME/CFS in England, the United States and The Netherlands:
ME: Unsere Doktoren - Ohne Wörter - P.S. 1: English
you'll find doctors Strangelove,
Bleijenberg and Van der Meer,
all equals, as
I've been taught in the
University of Amsterdam.
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