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June 20, 2010

 

ME + me :  A New Idea - The Daily ME


As readers may notice,
this Nederlog is sharper than most sofar
and indeed I will sharpen my tone considerably,
for a reason explained in this Nederlog. (%)

I am still not well at all and still sad, which is the reason there was no Nederlog yesterday: No health for it, in particular, no energy for it. Since I am writing, today it must be a little better, and yes indeed - but no more than a little, and the reason to write is that I have A New Idea:

The Daily ME

What is it all about? I'll explain.

There is now the new forum I have been mentioning now for almost two weeks on this place, and I am a member of it and write for it, and most of the most able writers and thinkers that were on Phoenix Rising are now also there, but a few others have also smuggled themselves in somehow, notably the Dutch person - man, woman, bisexual: I don't know - that calls itself "Lansbergen" on PR-F and "Cath" on ME-F.

Now the problem with Lansbergen, who has been moving around on PR-F since several months now, is that Lansbergen has no stances; no positions; no history of illness; no ideas; no values (except be respecful to Nazis and disrespectful to Jews, so far as I can tell from its words and actions) ... in fact it is almost nothing, although Dutch.

Indeed, it's anonymous, or so it seems (alternatively: There is a huge family by that name, many of whom are in Dutch universities in soft and half-soft sciences, and it is one of these many), and what it mostly does is post material it has found on the web, lately rather a lot around XMRV, about which it seems it knows more than I do (which is rather odd in someone who is a patient and not a retrovirologist, but perhaps it is just pretending).

Now according to Mark the Foreskin-sucking anti-semitic moderator, it was Lansbergen and only Lansbergen who complained about my post of May 3 as being

"offensive to Dutch"

You'll find in under the link, and should know it was combined with the following personal note by Mark the Fascist Beast, protected by Cort Tootsie Johnson a.k.a. Reeves' Rentboy (*):

From honest Mark, with all the best respect:


Hi, just to say sorry I failed to respond by EM within the 'memorial' period, a stressful one for you, as I now understand. Perhaps some small regrets over intervening, I could have tried 'do nothing' perhaps, but I will reflect on this.

Would it be fair to say: as a humane being, spiritual healing of mm remains impossible in the absence of honest understanding of history? The honour of such a position appears breathtaking to me. I can but respect that.

Also, I had some strange thoughts yesterday...we should probably discuss circumcision and the potential uses of what has been removed - privately, preferably...a sore point...

All the best,

Mark


Now, somebody who writes that to someone like me, after having verified that indeed my father survived almost 4 years of German concentrationcamp, and my grandfather was murdered in a German concentration camp, and who does so on the Dutch National Day of Commemoration, on May 4, is either a sadistic fascistic lunatic or else a sadistic fascistic psycho-pro from the Wessely-school.

He calls himself Mark Berry, altough I guess confidently that is an alias.

And Tootsie Johnson a.k.a. Reeves' Rentboy just couldn't care less; didn't understand what the fuss was about, and generally behaved as if he is .... ah yes: Reeves' Rentboy (*), and did not answer mail either, not at all, as if the above is just as he wanted it done, when I mailed the above titbit by Cort's Foreskinsucker and added this, writing as a psychologist of grandfatherly age:


Dear Cort,

I just CC'd you the latest mail by Berry. Clearly, he is mentally disturbed or works for the KCL. I got more of this type of sick madness.

You don't talk or touch on circumcision with one like me on Dutch Liberation Day if you are not a sick sadist.

I'm sorry, but thus it is. My guess is he is KCL, and else SERIOUSLY NEEDS HELP.

He should not moderate. He needs sectioning.

Best,

Maarten.


No answer. Not from Reeves' Rentboy. WTF does he care?! Mission accomplished, wouldn't you think?

Well... I am done, then: I conclude that I am dealing evidently with human degenerates, who stoop at nothing to gain their ends, from anti-semitism to verbal sadism by a pair of utterly loony Christian moderators acting out their innate devilish impulses on ill persons who regarded them as their friends: See ME + me: Sweet relief: The Phoenix Forums' Moderators for an excerpt of this SM gang-bang by Tootsie's horde of utterly mad discipliners. (This is really far out material if you think about it, and realize all of those involved are grown-ups, many elderly, while the ones denigrated, offended, defamed and banned or suspended are ill, some very seriously ill.)

After that Reeves' Rentboy did... nothing, as usual, for a daily dose of public sadism seems to be just his cuppa, although there probably were some evasions, some half truths, many omissions, no excuses, and a lot of baloney and crap, for that's his normal standard fare in answering to those who are in fact the creators of all the excellencies of his site - the members who post on it, whose texts he then illegally appropriates as his own, and almost never answers fairly and clearly. (I have not followed this very well, totally disgusted as I am by such sick sadistic pouncing on ill people merely because they question the wisdom of some clearly insane or illegal decisions by Reeves' Rentboy. Others have documented it. I find it thoroughly nauseating.)

So now professor Van der Meer, or professor Bleijenberg or dr. Van Kuppeveld are trolling on both forums, for all one can say, or at least Lansbergen the secret informer, the defender of the values of the SS and of Karremans, the one who seems to feel such glee and joy when reading about the murder on over 100.000 Dutch Jews, and who is according to itself a woman, but according to its co-criminal the degenerate Mark The Foreskinsucker, a man.

And there I sit again amidst the future ruins of a forum, that no doubt will consist of at least 95% genuinely ill persons, thirsting for contacts with those who understand their problems, and looking for information to help themselves, but also is the ideal place for the sado-fascists from the University of Nijmegen (not long ago, probabbly with Van der Meer's active support: Karl Marx University), the sado-fascists from King's College London, and indeed for any born intriguer, any born troll, any born sick sadist, for everything malicious, tricky, slimy, evil, and disgusting, as long as it can be conveyed by computer, can also be conveyed by anonymous human degenerates who are - so I have been taught at Dutch universities, with the active supports of leftist or catholic fascists like Van der Meer, Bleijenberg and Van Kuppeveld - THE EQUIVALENTS of Eichmann, Barbie and Heydrich, for THAT is what these professors and doctors have had taught and have repeated, for it is THE article of faith of all collaborating and drugsdealing Dutchmen: ALL MEN ARE EQUIVALENT; ALL MEN HAVE THE SAME VALUE: Eichmann and Van der Meer; Mengele and Bleijenberg; Barbie and Van Kuppeveld: all persons of just the same value. Thus it has been taught in Holland, to anyone, since over 40 years, because this is said to be the essence of "humanistic values" (rather than postmodern brainrot directed at an audience of morons, and aimed at a totalitarian society, as is the case).

Thus I have learned, and against this I protested - but the local Van der Meers, Bleijenbergs, Van Kuppevelds screamed in reply that I am ... a fascist, and a terrorist; removed me from the University of Amsterdam for having the courage to stand up for rational science and for humane values, and went on with their careers - mostly, in Amsterdam in the faculty philosophy, you will be glad to learn: Selling study-points for sexual favours, especially in ethics, but probably everywhere in the faculty. Here is the professor of ethics, prof.dr. Frans Jacobs, about attractive female students who want study points:

"Die voldoende krijgt ze op de koop toe, als ze mij eerst neemt. Maar als ze niets van me wil weten, ben ik onomkoopbaar. Hoe maak ik dat haar duidelijk?" 
                                             =
The passmark she will get gratis, if she first fucks me. But if she doesn't want to know anything of me, I cannot be bought. How do I make this clear to her?

This he published in the periodical of the faculty for philosophy, indicating his general willingness to fuck any student he liked to fuck, for free study points. Nobody objected, except me, with the above result. (Was Lansbergen perhaps a student of his? Many Dutch feminists were his students...just askin' )

Protests were to no avail: Thus it goes in Amsterdam, the City of Nazi-mayors who gas invalids to help the Amsterdam Mafia improve their profits (as Mafia-Mayor Cohen agrees since 20 March 2009 - but his spindoctors will take care my story isn't heard, and anyway I am not one of the ca. 250 people that monopolize the access to Dutch TV, and I am ill and in pain since decades.

Back to professor Van der Meer and professor Wessely trolling the forums, say as respectively Lansbergen and Mark. (I don't know, but it is quite possible - and there is no guarantee that e.g. Mark is one person only, as "Mark" of course claims: Whole teams of Wesselyan graduate students may be training their sadistic trickery under the aegis of Mark's PR-F-"identity").

Now that there are and have been trolls on the PR-forums is a fact; that professors Van der Meer and Wessely have enormous financial and legal interests in preventing an organized group of highly educated intellectually capable patients with ME, who can write, who can think, who do know science, whom they have personally denigrated, defamed, slandered, kept ill, destroyed the lives, health and chances of, and lied systematically to and about for decades is obvious; and that the risk for these gentlemen to have to face a court of law if XMRV turns out to be the cause of ME, as it well may be, is as evident as daylight.

But then there are on PR-Fs these apparent dr. Mengeles, or their equivalents, as I learned at the University of Amsterdam, parading as patient Bob, moderator Mark, patient-supporter Cath, who are writing, writing, writing, writing there - mostly utter bullshit, or boring nonsense, but with some stolen sense inbetween to remain credible, and who obviously mean to divide, to muzzle, to manipulate, to control, to use and to dominate the forum and its members, and to shut up and cast out anybody who does not speak their lingo, on the pretext that failing to do so is "disrespectful", for as Tootsie Johnson aka Reeves' Rentboy recently formulated it, the Phoenix Rising Forums are about... respect.

Thanks to Reeves' Rentboy aka Tootsie The Honest One, the moderators on PR can be any sadists he pleases. As far as I know, excepting SarahG who seems quite OK and sensible but is seriously ill, all the moderators now on this patients forum seem to be mostly or totally healthy, that is, outside the regions between their ears:

FreePrisoner, nominated moderator after a few months of ME, of which she miraculously cured herself in February with A Prayermeeting, still is moderator; Martlet the Catholic Inquisitioner, as far as I have seen from her murky prose, was also (mostly) Cured by Prayer, and so was her cat too; Jody the Protestant Inquisitioner seems also to have been mostly cured (she says) by Religion; Mark, just by the lengths of his posts and his eternal presence on PR-F cannot possibly have ME; Kurt the spiritual relativist is so ill that he keeps publishing and working for the military, if you believe it; Cort himself seems mostly healthy and perhaps is, though he can't yet exercise as much as he would like, while His Friend Mike was ... yes: miraculously cured from severe ME, albeit without prayer I have heard of, and that's it:

The staff of Phoenix Rising, after all the good ones were pestered, manipulated, forced away by those remaining, that - as I indicated - is best seen, whatever the real truth, since that has now been lied about for over a year, as the CDC's willing executioners, as their willing rentboys and rentgals, or however you want to phrase it - and if they aren't (you never know, and they certaily won't tell, and if they do, who would believe them?) they certainly deserve to be, from the ways they have been going on.

Or perhaps I am mistaken, by all this murkiness and deviousness and wilful vagueness I've read about PR-F, it's not the CDC but the CAA (whose CEO Kim McCleary earns more than the Dutch PM does, who has the highest salary allowed in Holland - outside banks etc. of course) these noble moderators, administrators and Tootsie Johnson serve so willingly and then indeed so well. (**)

In any case: My problem presently at ME-F is that almost always when I am there "cath" aka "Lansbergen" aka the Dutch pro-Nazi-collaborator is also hanging around, seeing what happens, and now and then posting as before, mostly stuff on XMRV, but with some very rare personal bits thrown in on June 16:

Interferion gamma has my attention for years. Now I can place it.
I am following the H5N1 story for years now.

Typically talk of a patient with ME, wouldn't you say? I mean: "for years" must mean that this purported Dutch patient - with lousy English - was already interested in fairly abstruse science "for years now".

And I don't want to be in the same place as someone who asserts falsely that my posts are offensive to Dutchmen. (And if they were: so what? The Dutch did massively collaborate in WW II and managed to help gas over 1% of the total population, and to lie about it for decades afterwards, for till this day these things are not discussed in Dutch schools, probably because then a Landsbergen stands up - far more Dutchmen have collaborators and former fascists in their family than resistance folks - and then  calls out loud that who says it is "a fascist" and "a terrorist" - just as happened in Amsterdam to me, when I protested the politicization and moronification of Duch education, that made it possible utter idiots like Bleijenberg could study and elbow and asslick their evil incompetences into professorships.)

So I have been thinking, since it will be very difficult to impossible to keep track on membership of the new forum if this is opened; then immediately there will be the trolls from old PR-F and the sickos who led it and almost destroyed it, all under other names, all with renewed congames, all also having learned how to play and mislead and troll the ill; and soon another forum will be gone to pieces a.s.o. and thus there will never be an organized group of competent real patients who can write, think and protest.

And then I got an idea:

The Daily ME

A MUCH better setup than a mere forum is a good forum (probably flooded soon by trolls, idiots and suckers, but OK...that is the internet, and all is anonymous, and patients with ME may be dangerous to established medical and bureaucratical interests), attached to which is The Daily ME, being a daily electronic paper written by 10-40 people who wrote best on PR-F, and who are known to be almost certainly all really ill and really capable, all set up like a daily paper for persons with ME, where the staff of the paper is closed for all but those 10-40 (who may later elect others) but anyone can comment.

Thus, it is much like a Blog, including comments, but it is written by 10-40 of those who have proved themselves to be personally reliable, capable and trustworthy, while keeping out all trolls, all false pretenders.

This probably is the best and indeed the only way to get a Real Science Forum about ME and get the patients voice heard while preventing trolls taking over the whole setup while fucking up ill people who stand in their way or dare protest, as happened on PR-F.


P.S. This seems the simplest idea to have the best of both worlds: A forum for all patients with ME, and anyone else besides, whether troll or insane or simply lost on the net, since on an anonymous forum these cannot be excluded with any hope on fair success, combined with a Blog on which a staff of known good writers and reasoners, all well-known and well-respected former members of PR-F, can do their thing, as if it were a daily paper.

Indeed, the ordinary forum members may aspire to become staff writer, but need to prove themselves thoroughly (no Corts, Marks or Martlets, not by any other name either, for example), and posts of the ordinary forum members may be made part of the The Daily ME - which then also is much more concentrated than a forum, and can be sent to the real papers, real media a.s.o.:

Here are We Patients With ME, without admixture of impostures, freaks, trolls or CAA-staff pretending to be just anybody with ME; with daily well-written new articles on any and all aspects of ME; by proven writers; with possibility for comments by any comers, as on a normal Blog, but on a daily basis to keep it tractable and in relatively small chunks; possibly with specials for special subjects or special guests, and best of all: No trolls, no bullshit, no evasions, no false promises, no theft of one's posts - real science and real good writing by and for real patients with ME.


As to ME/CFS (that I prefer to call ME):

1. Anthony Komaroff

Ten discoveries about the biology of CFS (pdf)

2. Malcolm Hooper THE MENTAL HEALTH MOVEMENT:  
PERSECUTION OF PATIENTS?
3. Hillary Johnson

The Why

4. Consensus (many M.D.s) Canadian Consensus Government Report on ME (pdf)
5. Eleanor Stein

Clinical Guidelines for Psychiatrists (pdf)

6. William Clifford The Ethics of Belief
7. Paul Lutus

Is Psychology a Science?

8. Malcolm Hooper Magical Medicine (pdf)

Short descriptions:

1. Ten reasons why ME/CFS is a real disease by a professor of medicine of Harvard.
2. Long essay by a professor emeritus of medical chemistry about maltreatment of ME.
3. Explanation of what's happening around ME by an investigative journalist.
4. Report to Canadian Government on ME, by many medical experts.
5. Advice to psychiatrist by a psychiatrist who understands ME is an organic disease
6. English mathematical genius on one's responsibilities in the matter of one's beliefs:
   "it is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon
     insufficient evidence
".
7. A space- and computer-scientist takes a look at psychology.
8. Malcolm Hooper puts things together status 2010.

"Ah me! alas, pain, pain ever, forever!

No change, no pause, no hope! Yet I endure.
I ask the Earth, have not the mountains felt?
I ask yon Heaven, the all-beholding Sun,
Has it not seen? The Sea, in storm or calm,
Heaven's ever-changing Shadow, spread below,
Have its deaf waves not heard my agony?
Ah me! alas, pain, pain ever, forever!
"
     - (Shelley, "Prometheus Unbound") 

    "It was from this time that I developed my way of judging the Chinese by dividing them into two kinds: one humane and one not. "
     - (Jung Chang)


See also: ME -Documentation and ME - Resources


P.P.S. ME - Resources needs is a Work In Progress that hasn't progressed today.


(*) Who is Reeves? An evil human ass-hole, an utter degenerate, quite possibly a thief of millions ... you choose, and you can do so on the basis of Hillary Johnson's "Osler's Web" - in brief: He is the American Dr. Mengele who, acting for the CDC, managed to make millions earmarked for ME-research "disappear", and who generally spoke and wrote like a sick degenerate about persons with ME. 

(**) You want to know why I hint at - what appears to be - Cort's sexual orientation? In fact, I don't care who he fucks with, as long as it is not me, but I do not like my missing foreskin thrown in my face by his staff, with his permission and backing, and because I do realize his real personal secret may be a virtually total lack of spine and personal identity, having made the one so supple it has almost disappeared and the other so phony he doesn't know anymore who or what he really is. Actors often are like that; actors often also have their own sexual persuasion; and Cort has done a lot of acting-as-if, and learned to do so as an EST-acolyte, which incidentally shows indeed his mind and character are not of the strongest. And I am in search of an explanation for the Cort-phenomenon: Why is he as he is - weak, absent, two-timing, evasive, unclear, unresponsive, dishonest, in short: so everything a good leader is not, while all the while claiming all the credit in his own PR-F-signature and disappropriating all the posts of members of PR-F? To me, it all sounds pretty sick and twisted, and being a psychologist I seek to understand the psyche of Cort, and that - sorry for respectful PC-idiots - does include his sexual orientation (that he may enjoy for all I care, but not if I and others are answered with queer SM-games when we pose completely legitimite questions).

And indeed, I have found him from the beginning a very strange guy, who seems to be not really there, in quite a few ways that matter. Whatever he is and is fit for: Not as a leader of a large group.

Maarten Maartensz

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